
There were two very important outcomes from Tuesday's gubernatorial race in NJ. The first message is that the residents of the state of NJ are sick and tired of higher taxes and corruption and not getting anything back for all the taxes we pay. We sent a clear message that we will not reward failure and if you are not doing your job in working for the people, we will fire you, and fire him we did. I hope that Christie got the message that it is now his time to lower our taxes and restore the state to the people. The frum community, across the state, overwhelmingly voted for Mr. Christie because we believed that on the issue that matters most, school funding and tax credits, he was the better candidate.
The other message that was sent loud and clear from Lakewood NJ is that the idea that Daas Torah is absolute and the argument of "who are we to question the gedolim they know better" is clearly not as iron clad as many in the charedi community would like you to think it is. In fact, I would go so far as to say that this election proves that these people do not truly believe in the concept of absolute Daas Torah or they would have voted overwhelmingly for Corzine and as these results show, Lakewood overwhelmingly voted for Christie and the two districts that Corzine carried are heavily minority. Here are the events as they played out.
Last week the Vaad in Lakewood, with the haskamah of the roshei yeshiva, including Rav Malkiel Kutler, came out and endorsed John Corzine for re-election to Governor. Hearing this many in Lakewood, who felt that Christie was better for the overall community, were up in arms. They felt that Corzine was only better for the Yeshiva not the rest of the town and that the whole town should be looked at not just the yeshiva. Some of the rabbonim whose names were on the letter who were not endorsing Corzine for a variety of reasons including his support for "Toeva" marriage. Sensing some discontent and descent among the ranks Rav Malkiel Kutler put in a call to Rav Aryeh Leib Shteinman is EY, to get the ultimate daas torah decision, one which, presumably if you follow absolute daas torah, would get everyone in Lakewood to lineup behind the candidate that Rav Shteinman said to vote for, after all who are we to question the gedolim? Let's not focus on the fact that they are turning to a 90 Year old rosh Yeshiva living in Eretz Yisrael to ask him who to vote for in a local election and they did not provide him will all the facts (like what generally happens with these takanos).
"The shailah explained that one candidate will sign the marriage equality bill, while the other says that he won’t, but the first one - i.e., Corzine - has done favors for the community. Rav Shteinman responded that there is no lifnei iver with respect to a goy, so it is not assur to vote for Corzine, and since he has been helpful to the kehillah in general, members of the community should vote for him."
So to make sure we are all following because one candidate has done "favors for the Yeshiva", regardless of where he stands on the rest of the issues even on Gay Marriage, he should get the support of the Kehila. After this speculation was abound that some of the rabbonim who previously endorsed Cristie were now changing their mind, however the following sign was posted: “There is a letter that says that Rabbonim were consulted who were Maskim that it is Mutar to vote for Corzine. If this is Mashma to you, that either me or Rav Forscheimer or Rav Felder or Rav Lieberman or Rav Simcha Bunim Cohen were consulted - that is not so.”
As far as I know the whole thing came to a head at about 6:30 on Tuesday night. I received the following text from a cousin of mine in Lakewood, "huge demonstrations in Yeshiva [BMG] for and against [Corzine]. It was like Meah Shearim. They had goyim come to join in the picket and campaign for Christie".
So to recap, the vaad endorses Corzine with the support of the Rosh Yeshiva, there is a machlokes and people are upset so they go to THE authority in Lakewood Rav Malkiel Kutler. He does not know what to do so he turns to the world authority of Daas Torah Rav Aryeh Leib Shteinman. And even with the haskamah of Daas torah across the board from Lakewood to Israel the people turn against their leaders and vote for Christie.
If these people truly believed what they preached that daas torah is absolute and we have no right to question the gedolim John Corzine should have taken the Lakewood vote by a huge margin, but indeed he lost all the frum areas, including where BMG is located. What does this say for Rabbinic authority? To me it tells me that it is a load of garbage because these people won't even practice what they preach. Even in Englewood New Jersey, an area that is the furthest thing from a bastion of Daas Torah, Rabbi Genack endorsed a candidate and the people overwhelmingly came out to support him. This says to me that the Modern Orthodox community holds Rabbinic authority in much higher terms than do the hypocrites in Lakewood.
The next time you hear the likes of R' Pinkey Lipschutz or Avi Shafran or any of these other guys preaching about how Rabbinic authority is absolute, ask them if this is something they really believe in or are they just using it to try and look frummer than the rest of the community but when push comes to shove they are going to do what they want.
The other message that was sent loud and clear from Lakewood NJ is that the idea that Daas Torah is absolute and the argument of "who are we to question the gedolim they know better" is clearly not as iron clad as many in the charedi community would like you to think it is. In fact, I would go so far as to say that this election proves that these people do not truly believe in the concept of absolute Daas Torah or they would have voted overwhelmingly for Corzine and as these results show, Lakewood overwhelmingly voted for Christie and the two districts that Corzine carried are heavily minority. Here are the events as they played out.
Last week the Vaad in Lakewood, with the haskamah of the roshei yeshiva, including Rav Malkiel Kutler, came out and endorsed John Corzine for re-election to Governor. Hearing this many in Lakewood, who felt that Christie was better for the overall community, were up in arms. They felt that Corzine was only better for the Yeshiva not the rest of the town and that the whole town should be looked at not just the yeshiva. Some of the rabbonim whose names were on the letter who were not endorsing Corzine for a variety of reasons including his support for "Toeva" marriage. Sensing some discontent and descent among the ranks Rav Malkiel Kutler put in a call to Rav Aryeh Leib Shteinman is EY, to get the ultimate daas torah decision, one which, presumably if you follow absolute daas torah, would get everyone in Lakewood to lineup behind the candidate that Rav Shteinman said to vote for, after all who are we to question the gedolim? Let's not focus on the fact that they are turning to a 90 Year old rosh Yeshiva living in Eretz Yisrael to ask him who to vote for in a local election and they did not provide him will all the facts (like what generally happens with these takanos).
"The shailah explained that one candidate will sign the marriage equality bill, while the other says that he won’t, but the first one - i.e., Corzine - has done favors for the community. Rav Shteinman responded that there is no lifnei iver with respect to a goy, so it is not assur to vote for Corzine, and since he has been helpful to the kehillah in general, members of the community should vote for him."
So to make sure we are all following because one candidate has done "favors for the Yeshiva", regardless of where he stands on the rest of the issues even on Gay Marriage, he should get the support of the Kehila. After this speculation was abound that some of the rabbonim who previously endorsed Cristie were now changing their mind, however the following sign was posted: “There is a letter that says that Rabbonim were consulted who were Maskim that it is Mutar to vote for Corzine. If this is Mashma to you, that either me or Rav Forscheimer or Rav Felder or Rav Lieberman or Rav Simcha Bunim Cohen were consulted - that is not so.”
As far as I know the whole thing came to a head at about 6:30 on Tuesday night. I received the following text from a cousin of mine in Lakewood, "huge demonstrations in Yeshiva [BMG] for and against [Corzine]. It was like Meah Shearim. They had goyim come to join in the picket and campaign for Christie".
So to recap, the vaad endorses Corzine with the support of the Rosh Yeshiva, there is a machlokes and people are upset so they go to THE authority in Lakewood Rav Malkiel Kutler. He does not know what to do so he turns to the world authority of Daas Torah Rav Aryeh Leib Shteinman. And even with the haskamah of Daas torah across the board from Lakewood to Israel the people turn against their leaders and vote for Christie.
If these people truly believed what they preached that daas torah is absolute and we have no right to question the gedolim John Corzine should have taken the Lakewood vote by a huge margin, but indeed he lost all the frum areas, including where BMG is located. What does this say for Rabbinic authority? To me it tells me that it is a load of garbage because these people won't even practice what they preach. Even in Englewood New Jersey, an area that is the furthest thing from a bastion of Daas Torah, Rabbi Genack endorsed a candidate and the people overwhelmingly came out to support him. This says to me that the Modern Orthodox community holds Rabbinic authority in much higher terms than do the hypocrites in Lakewood.
The next time you hear the likes of R' Pinkey Lipschutz or Avi Shafran or any of these other guys preaching about how Rabbinic authority is absolute, ask them if this is something they really believe in or are they just using it to try and look frummer than the rest of the community but when push comes to shove they are going to do what they want.





